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Patti and Molly
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Feb 18, 2016 at 08:54
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So, this Saturday we will have had Allie 2 weeks.

She has learned her name. She knows the word "no". (Actually, she learned no before she learned her name....what does that tell you?!) She's almost got "sit" down.

Potty training is going better than expected. She needs to go out once at night but she bangs on the gate to wake us up. During the day, she needs a potty break every hour or so if she's up/playing, but can go longer if we're not in a frenetic activity period.

I'm back to work this week, so she is staying in her den for 2-3 hours at a stretch. By "den", I mean a 3 by 6 foot enclosure we built for her. There's no way I could leave her in her actual crate that long - and on top of that, I didn't want to take a chance on her having to go potty and doing it in her crate. She's been 100% perfect in her crate at night and I don't want her to wreck that. So we put her crate in her den so she's got her familiar bed and some toys, and she's got a potty area in the back of the den.

Yeah, she HATES it. Barks, cries, howls, whines, throws herself around. I feel horrible she's so upset, but I don't know what else to do. I know she is safe in there and it breaks my heart that she hates it so much - but I guess by the same token, every puppy has to learn to stay by themselves for a few hours.

We are still working on the puppy biting. I call her my furry bundle of teeth. She's so stinking cute I just want to snuggle her, but 95% of the time all she does is bite. We're trying everything I can think of to get through her little head that biting is not ok. We tell her no, we get up and walk away, I clap my hands loudly, I've yelped in pain....sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

So - any advice, on either the staying by herself during the day, or the biting?

Do you remember how long it took your little one/s to get over the puppy biting, and/or to learn to stay alone without pitching a huge fit?


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Sherrie
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Feb 18, 2016 at 10:25
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My last puppy was my first Westie, Maggie Mae.  She was so exhausting that I swore "never again" to any puppies.  Since then, all my rescues are at least 2 years old and well past the puppy stage!

One suggestion would be to leave the radio on for her when she is alone.

As for the biting, supposedly yelping loudly will stop that.  You may want to check out some articles from dog trainer Victoria Stilwell...she has both articles and videos that may help.

Good luck!


Sherrie


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Patti and Molly
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Feb 18, 2016 at 10:38
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Thank you Sherrie!

I do leave the TV on for her. She watches The Weather Channel. ;-) I do think the TV helps her feel less alone.



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janet
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Feb 18, 2016 at 13:25
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hehee! ive forgotten how hard youngsters can be, but rewarding.


jan x


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Patti and Molly
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Feb 18, 2016 at 15:18
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Totally agree Jan. Frustrating, adorable little furry monsters. ;-)

I know she'll eventually get it, but sometimes others have good tips or ideas I hadn't considered too.

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Deb, Emmie, and Angel Kelsie
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Feb 18, 2016 at 16:15
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Emmie is our 3rd Westie and they've all got their own timetable and their own personalities. Hang in there, those milk teeth are sharp!! Emmie went through the play biting stage and one day, she just quit it! We've always kept the radio or TV on for her when we leave and having three cats in the house helped a lot. She's never fussed when we leave her but having hubby home (he's retired) most of the time was a huge help.
Love, Deb, Emmie, and Angel Kelsie

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Patti and Molly
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Feb 18, 2016 at 16:29
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thanks Deb - I'd forgotten just how sharp those little teeth are too.

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Mr.Willie
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Feb 18, 2016 at 16:23
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Patti it sounds like you have done a wonderful job in preparing her area for when you have to leave the house. It is hard to hear them be upset,cry and howl but she is safe and going through some anxious moments, normal for a pup when left alone just separated from her littermates.More time and Allie will adjust.
 
I remember back with my first westie Maddie she gave us a chorus of barks howls and whining being in her xpen area alone, Within a few days much of it stopped and she learned to amuse herself with toys and biting her blanket ect.
You can always look up a behaviorist in your area and see if they can give you some remedies that may help in training Allie if you think she may be going through some separation anxiety.

Seen some tips online that may help...

http://dogtime.com/dog-health/general/1470-puppy-training-home-alone-dunbar

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Patti and Molly
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Feb 18, 2016 at 16:30
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Thank you! We're making some progress but it's slow going. I appreciate all the advice and am looking at all of it.

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Iver and Sailor
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Feb 18, 2016 at 17:04
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Patti I'm glad to hear Allie is doing so well.
Iver used to bite me real hard too
I would yell ouch but it never deterred him
Finally when he was 5 when I would yell ouch
he finally learned to bite more gently and not hurt me.
I hope Allie won't take as long
When we first got Iver he barked only on his first night with us
He was quiet ever since.
I guess they just bark because they want some company
after living with their mother and siblings for 8 weeks

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Patti and Molly
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Feb 19, 2016 at 08:47
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Thanks so much. Yeah, I know it has to be hard, adjusting to being an only puppy. We've made a lot of progress in just 2 weeks too.

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NimbySue
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Feb 18, 2016 at 17:05
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Molly will have to learn and be educated Patti,as all puppies do..having said that Andrew has had very little education we do not think so still working slowly on his thugish behavior!..We had Emma our sadly departed Border Collie and know about those needle Milk Teeth and also when she gets the others it will be another phase for her...we kept some of Emma's which we found as keepsakes...I agree a low tv or soothing music on the radio is company for her though while you are out.keep us updated on her progress.Hugs Annie and Gang xxxxxxxx

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Patti and Molly
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Feb 19, 2016 at 08:49
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Annie, you are awesome. Andrew will learn and thankfully he now has a good home.

I have a whole bottle of Molly's puppy teeth that I've kept for 12 years. :-)

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Robin
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Feb 18, 2016 at 22:50
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My aunt and cousin are "co-parenting " a Morkie puppy named Max. Like Allie, he likes to bite. They took him to puppy kindergarten which helped some of his behavior issues. They said when he bites they say "Aaaaccck" or something in a high voice drawn out like that to get him to stop. 

I've heard from a former Cairn show breeder that Cairn puppies CAN hold their bladders for a night as long as they go out and pee just before going to bed and first thing in the morning. If she has to go out in the middle of the night she might be playing you. I've also heard that dogs don't go potty where they sleep. If she has a large enough crate to turn around in with some soft blankets to sleep on, she shouldn't mess in her crate. Of course we are talking about terriers who are smarter than their humans and likely to do the unexpected. 

Good luck and you just discovered why I don't ever want a puppy. I want to live near one to play with it and cuddle. I've only met Max twice so far. 

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Patti and Molly
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Feb 19, 2016 at 08:50
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Thank you Robyn.

Yep, puppies are so much work. I totally get why some people want to skip this phase. For me, I like trying to figure it all out with them. I guess I like the challenge. :-) Must be why I get along so well as a terrier mom.... they keep me on my toes.

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Diana
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Feb 19, 2016 at 02:13
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I am having a better time of it I think as I have Maddie to wear her out and play with. Izz knows the word no and she's not really a biter and if she does I say 'Ouch' in a little higher pitched voice and she stops and looks at me and then off she goes.

Izz was in the laundry of a day until this week and I've now let her out into 1 room of the house with Maddie during the day, she can't get into trouble there and can get in and out of the dog door. 

I don't use a crate apart from the car and she gets in and goes to sleep. I have a little bed for her and a snuggle puppy and toys in the laundry where she sleeps of a night. She has the fake dog grass on a tray to go to the toilet during the night, I couldn't handle getting up all the time, not with working full-time. 

When I got my first Westie I brought her home put her in a large box with a bed, newspaper etc and the noise she made was ear splitting, so I took her out and put her in the laundry in a bed and she was quiet. Mum's Westie boy did exactly the same, so she took him out and put him in a bed in the laundry. My 2nd Westie girl shrieked like a banshee so I took her out and put her in a bed next to my other Westie in the laundry. Izzy loves the laundry and so did Maddie, I have a baby gate on one end and a door on the other and never a moments fuss from either of them. It gives them room for their toys at one end, toilet area at the other end, food in the middle. 

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Patti and Molly
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Feb 19, 2016 at 08:53
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Diana, I was hoping you'd see this. Thanks for responding.

Yeah, in a lot of ways you would have it easier because they can keep each other entertained.

Glad to hear Izz isn't a biter. She's probably learned most of the rules about that from Maddie too.

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Diana
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Feb 19, 2016 at 16:50
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I was happy to, love hearing about others babies and of course talking about mine.

Maddie tends to correct izzy when she is doing something wrong, Hannah did the same with Maddie. Maddie either stands over her, pushes her away or pins her down. 

Izabella knew her name before she came home, the breeder asked at the 6 weeks mark what we were going to call her and from that day they called her by name. Pretty good idea really, unless of course you don't have a name. Both boys had the same name Oscar so whether that was confusing or both came running when called Oscar who knows....

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Gracie aka White Bullet
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Feb 19, 2016 at 06:00
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I'm no help because Gracie was easy. I had to leave her alone after the first 5 days I had her and she was fine in her crate. I work down the road so I came home at noon and let her out for almost an hour. She held it for the 4-5 hours she was in there and then I was home by 3. My husband was often home so she was let out mid morning. She never went in the crate. She never peed or pooped in the house.... ever. I was just vigilant with the no bite and bought bitter apple spray. I used it once and then all I had to do was pull out the bottle ad she stopped in her tracks.... now barking... that's a whole other story. Good luck!!

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Patti and Molly
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Feb 19, 2016 at 08:55
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It's funny - the "happy" barking doesn't bother me at all. We live in a single family home so I don't care if she barks all day long as long as she's happy. :-) She's not bothering anyone with the barking - I just hate the thought of her being unhappy!

But the good news is today is better than yesterday, which was better than the day before that.

We're making progress folks!!

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Moshe & Levi
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Feb 19, 2016 at 15:39
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I remember the days when Moshe was a puppy. when he would drink I be outside with him in 15 minutes.I praise him and he would get a treat a tiny one. Same thing after he would eat I took  him after 20 minutes outside. the first night we did not get much sleep he would cry being in a crate downstairs. I finally brought him upstairs in his crate at the bed end. He wanted out. I would take him during the night outside and Moshe was a real good boy after that. We bought lots of stuff for him to chew on and till this date he has never gone in the house or ever destroyed anything. When both of us had to leave we put a cate by the kitchen water would be there and a bed with some toys. Keep praising Allie when she does something good she will remember.

Moshe had lots of dental bones for his teeth and it is sad they no longer carry them here. We would always stay with him when he had a dental bone. He never bit me. or Richard. Richard wanted to give him a leather shoe but I told him NO if you give him one he will bite other shoes too and the same with leather working gloves. I would not allow that. Moshe was easy to train and he can still hold it for a very long time. He loves to drink and Levi too.

It should be fine when Allie is alone when you have to work with you coming home in the afternoon. So glad you can post pictures now Patti.

 Hugs, Moshe, Levi and Yoka


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Charleen and Matthew
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Feb 22, 2016 at 20:34
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She's really doing good with the potty training!  That den is a really good idea.  Sure is better that a tiny crate.  I'm sure she will get used to it in time and not mind being in there. Your only other option is to move to Huron, SD and I'll puppy sit her while you work. 

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